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ATM INDUSTRIES Malton, ONtario Canada

I came across a high lift power walkie with a slight mast tilt. The unit is 3000lb capacity/24"LC and is of a straddle type. The data plate reads ATM Industries, Malton, Ontario Canada and the model # is x (?)4100. It is running on 4 6volt batteries w/o a built in battery charger, directly linked to an older style external battery charger. It is yellow, and quite the beast.

The owner believes the truck is approx 25 years old, came with no horn or power disconnect, and has the raise/lower and tilt levers mounted directly on the console, not on the handle. There is a platform for the operator to use it as a rider however no grab handle and no center pod.

Anybody know of this company and/or this truck? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Trying to get additional info and history on this truck and company, and looking for an operators/service manual.

Any google searches brings up banking ATM machines, not exactly what I am looking for.

Thank you in advance.
  • Posted 27 Jul 2010 12:27
  • By dan_m
  • joined 14 Oct'05 - 335 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
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Thank you. At this point, nothing I need. Just came across this unit some time ago and was curious, and thought I could help out the owner. Let them live with it until it dies and then get a modern unit to replace. Again, thank you.
  • Posted 23 Jan 2012 03:33
  • By dan_m
  • joined 14 Oct'05 - 335 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
I was the plant manager there in the early eighties, what information do you require, sorry no manuals available.
  • Posted 23 Jan 2012 03:10
  • By victor_j
  • joined 23 Jan'12 - 11 messages
  • Somerset, United Kingdom
Power walkie stacker is exactly what I put on theirvpermits and the record of training.

Again, appreciate your comments
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 20:11
  • By dan_m
  • joined 14 Oct'05 - 335 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Also this truck is classified as a walkie stacker, not a high lift power walkie.
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 14:07
  • Modified 28 Jul 2010 14:08 by poster
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
dan, battery weight should not have an appreciable effect on the stability of this truck. Sounds like any seasoned forklift tech should be able to keep this truck in service even with the manufacturer out of business. Go to the component manufacturer for product support as necessary and keep the cap plate safe. I would not occupy the end user with a search for manuals, just befriend a good tech and a machine shop.
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 13:07
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
The load wheels in the straddles are pretty close to the front of the truck, hence close to the forktips. These batteries are like 20+ years old! I do not believe the weight of the truck was listed, nor the min/max battery weight, and I cannot recall, but the height must be 7-9 feet high. Def not 10'!
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 12:56
  • By dan_m
  • joined 14 Oct'05 - 335 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
dan, check the capacity plate to verify that no min/max battery weight is listed. If the truck lifts its load within its own footprint, i.e. the load wheels are at or near the tip of the forks and the center of gravity of the load remains within the wheelbase at all times, the truck will not require counterballasting and car type batteries will be "fine" (deep cycle batteries would be preferred) of course, with a high lift you do want the truck to be heavier than the load it's lifting by a significant amount to keep the combined center of gravity as close to the ground as possible (how high does it lift?)
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 12:35
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Thanks for the info. Thankfully, the data plate is intact and legible. Capacity, load center, lift height, degrees of tilt forward and reverse, and 24V. Oddly enough, the compartment looks like it would have taken a 24 volt industrial battery however this truck has 4 6 volt car like batteries, and instead of an internal charger as most trucks have with these batteries, this one has an external charger, the egg timer type, and very similar cables to those of the industrial battery type truck. I was questioning as to whether they replaced the batter ies with these, and they said no, and upon further examination of the battery compartment, there is a welded shelve to house two of the four batteries in the center, and a plate to support the two on the bottom. There are also cross beams at the top that wouldn't allow for a standard industrial battery, making me believe that both types of batteries were offered, and if you chose the 4 6v, these pieces were then welded in to prevent the use of an industrial battery.

I am starting to see them all now, as a trainer. lol
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 10:42
  • Modified 28 Jul 2010 10:47 by poster
  • By dan_m
  • joined 14 Oct'05 - 335 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
hi Dan,
I have seen a few ATM units, but they were all the dockstackers. All used standardized controls. I would suggest giving Liftway a call on a whim to see if they have anything left. They were definitely the dealer for them in the 80s. You are correct, this was not a big company and only a few were produced, however there is nothing special about them. They were only a collection of parts from various manufacturers, and any weldments specific to these machines can be duplicated readily by a competent machine shop. The only problem you will run into is with the capacity plate; IF this info is LOST you will need to hire an independent engineer to define the operational limits of the machine and certify the design before an alternate capacity plate can be affixed in order to pass the mast inspection. The engineer's certificate with seal will also have to be kept at the workplace at all times and a backup copy should also be kept on the machine.
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 10:35
  • Modified 28 Jul 2010 10:37 by poster
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Thank you. No to you assumption. They mainly repair the truck themselves but they have GN Johnson coming in to give it a look over. The truck has never been safetyed (sp). The reversing switch was missing, and the truck came without a horn. They acquired a horn and will be installing it as well as the reversing switch.

I have never heard of this company and unsure as to whether these lift trucks are one ofs, or if they actually produced many, yet they seem to be few and far between. I was looking for info about the company and trying to get a copy of the manual on behalf of my client, and I realize my post is recent however I am confident that a search will be of no avail.

I once came across a DEW Engineering narrow aisle reach however I do know that Dew is not in the forklift industry, and probably only produced a few.

Thank you for your assistance. It is greatly appreciated, and if you do so happen to run across a manual for this truck, a photocopy would be great, and my client would be willing to pay the costs involved.
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 10:27
  • By dan_m
  • joined 14 Oct'05 - 335 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Ive got the manual in front of me now, actually the first ten pages of section 0 and the rest is for the staticon charger supplied with the unit in 1982. It was delivered in Brantford by Liftway Limited (still in business) their number is 519. 759, 5590. The only ones still there who may have been with the company that long ago would be the owner, and Cliff (if he hasn't retired) but i doubt youd get much info from him. The service info for those trucks probably went in the trash years ago when they went to ISO but they were the dealer for them at one point.

ATM's address and info in 1982 were:
6380 Northwest Drive, Mississauga L4V 1J7
Tel. 905. 677, 6411 (dont bother trying the number)

The dock stacker I have info for is the ACR Acromatic.
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 10:23
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Hi Dan, I do indeed have a service manual for an ATM machine, but it is a dock stacker similar to a Crown RC or Schaeff type unit. So I have come across this company before. I do not have info specific to your product, but Im wondering if this problem can be solved without it. Im guessing you are concerned whether the tilt limits are within specification?
  • Posted 28 Jul 2010 10:07
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Should have made myself more clear.
There is a tilt cylinder that provides for, now don't hold me to this, 3 degrOees forward and possibly 10 degrees reverse. may be wrong with the 10 degrees, but the mast does tilt forward and back.
  • Posted 27 Jul 2010 19:30
  • By dan_m
  • joined 14 Oct'05 - 335 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
What do you mean by slight mast tilt? Do you mean it limps over to one side when you deadhead it at full lift?
  • Posted 27 Jul 2010 13:35
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada

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