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1996 hyster S50XM engine model?

can anyone tell me what engine is in the 1996 hyster S50XM? 4 cyl gas engine converted to LPG.
  • Posted 13 Oct 2010 09:03
  • By craig_f
  • joined 26 Jul'10 - 26 messages
  • Iowa, United States
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Please check compression numbers again wet. Do this by spraying a small quantity of oil into the cylinders so the oil settles around the piston rings. This will temporarily improve sealing and if the compression numbers rise significantly, will point you to seized or worn piston rings. If mostly unaffected, this will point to damaged valve seats or tight lash adjustment (mechanical lifters). I have seen both conditions occur as a result of overheating: Either the piston rings get seized in the pistons due to melting, or the valves recede and pound out a recess in the valve seats creating a leak. You need to do this test again wet to decide whether to do an inframe or rebuild the engine.

If it is the head your best course of action is to send the head out for rebuild. They will magnaflux for cracks, install new valves, guides and seats, and replace the valve seals. They will adjust the valve stem heights and mill the head gasket surface if required, and provide all necessary gaskets to reinstall it (if you ask nicely they may even provide torque specs) I would also send the block out for overhaul to a rebuilder because it will come back faster than you can do it at home, and best of all with a guarantee.

Consider buying a leakdown tester from the tool truck or professional tool shop. This tool when hooked up to shop air, will tell you the amount of cylinder leakage and will point you to where the leak is occurring. Compression testers are good for evaluating the overall wear on an engine, but a leakdown tester is great on its own if you have problem cylinders because it will diagnose the problem all in one step: you don't have to do a wet test to find the leak. you just listen to the carb throat, the exhaust pipe, and the open oil filler cap for a hissing sound and there's your weak spot. In the case of a blown head gasket you'll hear a hissing sound out the adjacent sparkplug hole or see bubbling through the radiator neck. Caution: be sure to bar the engine over to either TDC and lock it, or BDC so the engine doesn't kick over on you when you apply air pressure and it must be on the compression stroke, use the rotor position to guide you.
  • Posted 14 Oct 2010 07:07
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
ok a little research and I have found its a 2.0 mazda FE engine with the FE79 head.
  • Posted 13 Oct 2010 21:14
  • By craig_f
  • joined 26 Jul'10 - 26 messages
  • Iowa, United States
the compression numbers are 175 cyl 1, 90 cyl 2, 50 cyl3, 40 cyl4 based on these I would surmise I may have a blown head gasket between 3 and 4 however the difference between 1 and 2 is more than 10 percent which in my experience is the allowable tolerance. I am considering doing an in frame overhaul. or replace the engine. kinda depends on which i find to be cheaper. I dont need a new engine for as little as I will use the lift but I would like ti to be in half way decent shape.

now is this mazda engine an "industrial" engine or an automotive engine adapted for industrial use. can I go to the local parts store and get engine components? and what size is the engine? does this engine have removable cylinder sleeves? anything else I need to know before considering overhauling the engine vs replacement? thanks for the help guys.
  • Posted 13 Oct 2010 21:01
  • By craig_f
  • joined 26 Jul'10 - 26 messages
  • Iowa, United States
What are your compression numbers? Based on your pictures it looks like the Mazda FE engine. Do a wet/dry test to narrow it down to either the rings or the head. Also check the oil pressure with a mechanical gauge and check crankshaft endplay.
  • Posted 13 Oct 2010 14:47
  • By steponmebbbboom
  • joined 21 Nov'05 - 189 messages
  • Ontario, Canada
Im pretty familiar with GM engines and it does not look like anything GM produced. I wondered if it was the mazda. how expensive are they to rebuild or should I look for a used engine. the one I have runs fairly well. but seems a little weak. I did a compression check on it today despite not wanting to see the results. I was rewarded with dismal results as I had suspected. to be honest Im surprised it runs as well as it does based on the numbers the compression check gave me. any suggestions? it has 14811 hours on it and the maintenance on it was very poor at best prior to me getting it.
  • Posted 13 Oct 2010 11:46
  • By craig_f
  • joined 26 Jul'10 - 26 messages
  • Iowa, United States
A square shaped valve cover is a GM, otherwise it's a Mazda
  • Posted 13 Oct 2010 10:36
  • By mrfixit
  • joined 11 Dec'08 - 1,434 messages
  • New York, United States

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