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GreenPulse
Not to get into a discussion of sales "pitches" but:
1. I believe it is very common to get 5 years+ out of a battery (assuming a single shift operation) with proper maintenance and charging methods. As an example, I had a customer in a relatively high volume (4.5 - 5 hours average operating hours per unit) single shift operation that averaged 8.5 years out of a new battery (some 11 years) with a fleets of 26 units and lifts to 20 feet many units fitted with carpet poles. Most units were stand up, counterbalance and reach units with a few 3 wheels. They gave the batteries TLC when it came to maintenance & charging - the even use the "EQUALIZE" button on the chargers which 90% of electric truck users knows where it is or what it does and there was no signs of overfilling on the cells (i.e. sulfate). Just like changing oils in an ICE unit - just remember that oil is always cheaper than metal and those cure all additives cannot repair abuse.
2. With respect to warranty there are battery companies, that are price competitive, that offer a full 5 year warranty I have sold them and they live up to full expectation. I believe I made mention of the fact that some battery brands or sales reps claim a 5 year battery warranty in a quote but in actuality it is a 3 year full warranty & 2 years of prorated e.g. GNB, General and other brands.
3. How do you address the issue of " lead shedding" which will short out a battery cell and/or AHC of the battery cell? Sulfate removal from the plates has little to do with that.

If you consider these factors (5-year life) & full five-year warranty in to your analysis then it appears the net benefit becomes less attractive.

Duodeluxe,

I work with a local battery supplier and service dealer here in Atlanta. When they rebuilt a battery they
1.) Advise that you will get a minimum of 80% of the original AHC (actually kWh) of the battery
2.) The battery is targeted for use by single shift operations and up to 3-4 hours per shift & units equipped with simple attachments (side shift, fork positioners types).
3.) They provided test results of the before and after of the battery that was "rebuilt" or "reconditioned", they never implied the battery was "renewed" as this implies that battery is back to original capability.
4.) They backed the battery with a full 1-year warranty.

We sold these batteries in used electrics where operations were slow, e.g. retail carpets stores or small warehouses that wanted to convert to electric. Kinda' like selling a used ICE truck (reconditioned type). They ain't for every body because used means it is partially or almost all they way wore out.
I trust you have a good battery supplier that can provide recon'd batteries and are knowledgeable. I might suggest you take them in to see a prospect the next time you run into "the renew battery guy" or "snake oil peddler"
  • Posted 11 Mar 2009 11:33
  • By johnr_j
  • joined 3 Jun'06 - 1,452 messages
  • Georgia, United States
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