wayne, come on man... capitalism is the only form of free government. socialism has failed EVERYWHERE it has ever been tried. if you could make something for a dollar and someone offered you 100 dollars each are you willing to say no... thats o/k, just give me 1.50. i love the fact that every person in this country can get wealthy if they work hard enough, and any socialism is too much.

i would love to visit the UK but i think you guys will be living under Sharia law soon so i will stay home and do what i can to slow the process here. good luck to you all.

Our (the UK) healthcare system is wonderful in it's concept and it still works very well thanks to the dedicated frontline staff. But like most 'industries' it has been nigh on destroyed by 'management' !. Healthcare shouldn't be an industry but thanks to the past and present government's of our country it is now a fully fledged profit making industry managed by people who haven't a clue or a care about peoples health!!...
The concept is very good,and if that's what you Americans have the option of then great!!...just don't accept the 'gone to ***' option the greedy bastards that run our country have forced on us!!!

I've never understood why Americans put up with their disaster of a health care system.

If you want to understand the American Health Care debate, follow the money. There's a small group of people who have a vested interest in the current, terrible system, because they are making a lot of money off it. Those people will fight change, no matter how good the change would be for the average American. After all, they are making a nice profit, and to **** with Joe Average.

Wayne

Forget the UK, much as it greives me to say it being a keen Jackist or more accurately Georgist, (sorry Kevin). China is the future been there, and S**T myself in what I saw.......you may have an opinion to which your entitled, but like Vietnam, " You dont know man , you were never there"..or maybe you have and understand.

Where abouts you moving to Richard?

eh, threads usually do get off track...it doesn't bother me...kinda amusing actually.

yes i am moving, thats not going to change. i have legal reasons i am not going to leave until next year.

i have dual citizenship but have lived my whole life in the U.S. just visiting back to the UK every so often. currently working for a independent and living in the central valley.

i have no family left here..they've all moved back to the UK over the last few years, so I'm going too.

Richard C,

Seems this thread really got off track but I surmise you are still on track to move to the UK in spite of what has been stated here.

Good Luck & When You see the Queen tell her Hello from all of us.

Here in the USA, there is a move to change our health care system,
in our "Newsradio" talk shows we hear on and on about how bad the UK (and every other "nationalized" ) system is. our radio would have us believe that there are Government panels that decide who lives and dies, in your country, and we will have the same here if we let the government have ANY say in our health care.
personally I think it is wonderful you DON'T understand.

here in the USA, we want you to include the crummy Government run Health care system much more, when you complain about your country... we are complaining about British health care here almost every day, and your failure to list it at least 3 times in your above rant just ruins our radio talk show provided impressions about "socialized and or Government run medicine/health care", so get on the stick there guys... complain about the "death panels" at least as often as you complain about unemployment.


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Sorry but i just don't understand what you are on about Edward.

Too much blue sky thinking has gone to your head methinks VBoost. If you can't see the blatantly obvious what hope is there for the rest of us in this country that is being destroyed from within! Herald is right.

Well said Herald.

nothing wrong with our health service. just that the patients have no patience.....lol

here in the USA, we want you to include the crummy Government run Health care system much more, when you complain about your country... we are complaining about British health care here almost every day, and your failure to list it at least 3 times in your above rant just ruins our radio talk show provided impressions about "socialized and or Government run medicine/health care", so get on the stick there guys... complain about the "death panels" at least as often as you complain about unemployment.

I was not being negative about the uk the original post was asking about the current job situation at the minute and as we all know there are no jobs especially in forklifts.
You are correct about this country being ok, but you have got to agree it is going down hill with overcrowding,unemployment,crime,HUGH national debt that we are going to have to work until way post 65 to pay back,MP's who are on the take all the time and even though lots of them are already millionaires are making us pay for their Hobnobs etc.

Britain is ok but believe me it is no longer Great Britain,more the shame.

herald.