makes sense

It still takes time before you find a mature BAOLI, but surely it will inherit some kind of LINDE DNA.

Re comments about expensive parts, expensive labour, difficult to maintain/repair, etc. Yes, parts do cost, but so they do for all manufacturers. Cost for repairs/maintenance will be more expensive if non-Linde engineers are doing the work. Fully trained Linde Sevice Team cost less than bumbling outsiders.
The Linde hydrostatics are a firm favourite with most operators, and user friendly. Maintenance is 'Engineer Friendly' to those who know what they're doing.

Hi Herald i was wondering if linde would use the old linde design like they do in China for the Baoli Brand as a option on a lower cost hydrostatic. At the moment the market in Asia and europe don't really care about brand just price so it might be possible for Linde to do. The only problem would be if Linde did this they could not really charge a premium for the Linde range as they do now. But with Junghienrich Now doing a small Hydrostatic and Cassab also doing hydrostatic and possible using Toyota parts the hydrostatic market is going to be come more competitive

Hi dave
Baoli of china are tied up with Linde so unlikely to try a cheap copy.
Very much doubt Linde will drop the hydrostatics its what makes the trucks FAR superior to all other
brands.

herald

hi,folks.....
i think there is a mentenance problems and the brakes problem too..............
there are many companies which are running bcoz of these issues.....

eddy don't the new 10,000kg range have a cab that tilt back. but for the smaller one's to do this they would have to move the tilt cylinders. I think that the transverse engine lay out is a bit of a problem and maybe they would have been better with a in line engine set up But yes i agree when a forklift driver drives a hydrostatic then they prefer that type of transmission. Linde main problem seems to be price but to fix there are not as complicated as what some people claim basically they are quite simple. Junhienrich have a smaller 1,500 kg - 3,500kg hydrostatic truck which seems to be doing well. Now that companies are looking more at the environment and law's are to come into force about emissions and the rising cost of fuel then this must have an effect longer term. How long will it before one of the chines companies may be Baoli bring out a cheaper hydrostatic

Linde trucks in general are a solid truck that can take a lot of punishment in a bad working envornment the only downside with them is what a horrible aukward truck to work on if only linde would make all of there trucks were the cab frame tilted back like what you see on the electric range what a difference that would make
But if linde gets rid of Hydrostatics i think that will be big mistake thats what there customers like and are a custom to.When ever you get a forklift driver that has been used to driving Hydrostatics they dont want to go back to driving the normal powershift transmissions

I wouldn't deny that the parts pricing is high but compared to what. I think that, in general, Toyota has huge prices.
The biggest problem is that mechanics who are not at all familiar with Lindes poke and hope that they can fix them without having any knowledge about the trucks and then blame the trucks for the high maintenance expenses.

I don't know about over there across the pond but I've found that over here they're fine until you start having maintenance problems and then all of the perceived savings that you get by going hydrostatic (no brakes etc) go out the window due to parts prices and the intensive labor time it take to get them up and running again. I've seen where alot of companies are now going away from them due to these issues.