Hi all, long story short we bought a 1996 GPX25 with low hours at an auction not knowing that as it turns out needs major repair work. It has the Continental TMD27 Diesel that I got running last week but it would not shift or lift. I pulled the inspection cover on the bell housing and was stunned to see the torque converter missing. I'm trying to figure out what might have happened. I think it might go something like this: somebody broke the truck and the person that worked on it thought the torque converter was bad and pulled it and sent it in for rebuild. The shop that did the converter rebuild called back and said the converter was ok. That leaves the transmission as the cause. This is about the only thing I can think of that makes sense as to why somebody work pull the engine and then re-install without fixing it.
Does this make sense? Any thoughts on how I should proceed? Any checks that could be done to try and see is the transmission is bad?
Thanks, Dale
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Hello GPX25 owner, I have the exact forklift and trying to get a part's manual and a direct outlet to purchase part's. I was told from several forklift part outlets, military issue forklifts are different from the standard issue. It's been hard to get information or part numbers.
Doe's anyone have any info. I would appreciate it. Other than that real good heavy duty forklift. Thank You for the help in advance.
Yeah, and here is a picture of what it looks like with all the parts in place. That's funny, both pictures look the same.
Oh gee. I forgot the forum does not allow pictures.
Yes it now looks like it was sold as scrap and major expensive parts removed. I decided to pull the bell housing and take a look and found there are major parts missing from the transmission.
Picture of a big empty space to dump lots of money in: http://skiworldorlando.com/boats/ClarkTransResample.jpg
If this was a army unit then the truck was probably prepped for scrap. I am thinking this unit was probably sold as scrap and probably was described on origianl manifest as such when liquidated by the gov't. This unit was more than likely bought by a person at an army base auction and sold to another then came up for auction at a civilian sale. You might get lucky and get by with just a converter. But with unit drained of all fluids i am betting it was originally sold as scrap.
mrfixit, I think you nailed it. Looking back I remember dirt and debris in the air intake hose like it had been sitting out in the open for a long time. Could not understand why at the time but now it makes sense.
Another interesting thing I found before I tried to start it was there was no fluid in it at all. No brake, trans, lift, motor or fuel. Speaking of transmission and lift fluid I'm still confused as to how the pumps work on the truck.
Does it have just one pump for the lift and transmission? Or are the lift and transmission separate? It does look like there are two different filters. The differential had no oil in it, I filled it with 30wt trans fluid as advised by the local Clark dealer. It took about 3 gallons - is the diff oil shared with the transmission and torque converter? I did remove the drain plug on the diff before I filled it and there was nothing in it, no fluid or debris.
As I type this, looking back we should have gone down to the auction the day before and spent time really looking over the trucks. I would have noticed the lack of oil/fluid if I would have had the time to check. Lesson learned! Do not buy anything at an auction unless you have had a chance to completely inspect!
My thoughts are that someone took it apart for whatever reason (could be motor or trans). Never finished the job. Machine sat around disassembled for a period of time. Convertor was lost or sent out or something. Then, someone came up with bright idea of getting rid of it, stuck the motor in, and sent to auction.
Well- with that new info anythings possible! :) Maybe they needed a torque converter? You could try draining the trans in to a clean pan & check the oil for filings- you'd still be making a huge bet that there's nothing in the trans that could cause trouble to a new torque converter. But you could luck out- you never know......
bbforks, thanks for the reply. That's a good point about the metallic pieces. Here is something interesting, before I read your reply I removed and cut open the trans oil filter and did not find anything in it. Not sure what to make of that. The truck was a former government (Army) unit. The fuel injector pump was not working when we got the truck so perhaps it was at some base not running and they needed some parts???
I would plan on a complete trans overhaul. Apparently the tans was having issues so they pulled the torque converter to check. Doesn't matter which component failed (main trans or converter), the complete trans -including the converter- needs to be overhauled.
When the converter fails- it sends metallic fragments into the trans. Same is true for a trans failure- it sends fragments into the converter.
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