Discussion:
Hyster vs. Yale

Difference being????? Why buy one or the other?
  • Posted 8 Sep 2006 13:12
  • Discussion started by tom_j
  • Oregon, United States
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Yes....Gibs racing had a press conference last week and Tony was included. Tony said "all race cars look the same from the driver's seat". Toyota is adding 30 engineers for TRD. They are also building a gigantic facility somewhere around Charlotte.
  • Posted 13 Sep 2007 00:10
  • Reply by charlie_j
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over
not offically. but they will. i really thought that Jr. would go to Joe Gibbs racing.
  • Posted 12 Sep 2007 21:59
  • Reply by steve_c
  • Illinois, United States
Is Tony officially driving a Toyota next year?
  • Posted 12 Sep 2007 12:14
  • Reply by Toyotaman
  • Rhode Island, United States
the 7FGCU series are all made in Columbus Indiana. The home of Tony Stewart. Toyota has MANY supporting companies in surrounding areas or states. The Aisan transmission is also made in Indiana. Well actually Tony is from a small town very close to Columbus.
  • Posted 12 Sep 2007 11:23
  • Reply by charlie_j
  • California, United States
You are correct Steve! "U" stands for USA (Indiana, Iowa, NY or Canada) but close enough.
  • Posted 12 Sep 2007 08:25
  • Modified 12 Sep 2007 08:39 by poster
  • Reply by Toyotaman
  • Rhode Island, United States
the j means that the truck was made in Japan. and the "u" means the truck was built in Indiana. just guessing.
  • Posted 11 Sep 2007 22:52
  • Reply by steve_c
  • Illinois, United States
I'll throw in my thoughts. Having worked for Yale for many years the biggest differece I see between NACCO and Toyota is simplicity (I now work for Toyota). Toyota has had one engine and basically one transmission for 21 years. NACCO has the two Mazda engines (Very good engines) and the 3.0L GM engine (Not nearly as good as Mazda, but more power). They have three engines and four transmissions. By my count this is a possible 12 combinations (I know only certain packages are offered). Toyota has one transmission with one engine.

The old GLC050RGNUAE083s were great trucks but the Veracitor may have been too big a step without the proper engineering resources.

By the way, does anyone remember what the "J" in the older Yale model number stood for? GLC030CBJUAT083?

Does anyone know what the "U" stands for in a Toyota model 7FGCU15.
  • Posted 11 Sep 2007 12:03
  • Modified 11 Sep 2007 12:04 by poster
  • Reply by Toyotaman
  • Rhode Island, United States
Well skyscrape we do agree on one issue....the cost of Toyota parts.

On the quality issue, we are just going to have to agree to disagree. I worked on them all for well over twenty years and saw Toyota go through growing pains of being a new product in the American market. Starting with the 5 series Toyota made a great leap on quality. Dealers were even complaing of not having enough parts revenue on the new series. Although they took a step back with the 6 series (which was a short lived series) the 7 series they again focused on quality. Nacco is not a bad product...Toyota is simply a better quality product.
  • Posted 9 Sep 2007 10:05
  • Reply by charlie_j
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over
RE: Charlie J's claim "Toyota is the most trouble free truck on the market today. "

No offence Mr. C. but - WHAT a load son!

All forklifts break down, I've 20 yrs. working on them all; the ammount of breakdowns toy vs nacco are close. The difference being the price of the parts; Toyota's being up to 3x more on certain parts - esp. big ticket items. That's why a previous post said - tranny build nacco $5k; toyota $12k - is true. Price a ring & pinion $600 nacco ; $1800 toyota. Toy's are great till they break - then you will pay 3x as much for the parts.
  • Posted 9 Sep 2007 07:17
  • Modified 9 Sep 2007 07:35 by poster
  • Reply by skyscrape
  • Georgia, United States
why not just put a GM in every lift truck? with a holley 4 bbl with posi traction and a 411 rear end.
  • Posted 11 Aug 2007 05:33
  • Reply by steve_c
  • Illinois, United States
I don't know how a discussion that started out as "Hyster vs. Yale morphed into a discussion about Toyota..... I think that the reason that Toyota is #1 is that they are the the best at marketing, plain and simple. It doesn't prove a thing about the quality of their products. Isn't Walmart #1?-- and no one would argue that they absolutely offer the best quality products.
There is a local lumber company that has one 6,000# Toyota diesel pneumatic as well as several of another brand truck with the same specs. Whenever they hire a new driver, they drive the Toyota down their STEEP driveway and they have to use the other brand trucks to push it back up the hill because it can't make it on it's own. By the way, the other brand trucks have an average of 12,000+ hours of use and the Toyata has about 3,000# hours and has not been able to negotiate the hill from day 1. And no, the problem isn't timing or adjustments-the truck is just plain underpowered.
  • Posted 31 Jul 2007 22:58
  • Reply by duodeluxe
  • United States
duodeluxe
Remember the next position for a #1 is a number greater than 1.
  • Posted 31 Jul 2007 22:19
  • Reply by johnr_j
  • Georgia, United States
It's tough being #1.
  • Posted 31 Jul 2007 10:16
  • Reply by Toyotaman
  • Rhode Island, United States
You are right etharp.

I have also never heard of a dealer refusing service because the customer is disputing a bill. However, I have heard of a dealer who required a technician to pick up a check after servicing the truck. What other business do you know where the customer will wait 120 days to pay a bill and it is an accepted practice? The lift truck industry is unlike any other.
  • Posted 30 Jul 2007 07:18
  • Reply by charlie_j
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over
Donni......I see you work for Jerry Hatmaker, good friend of mine. He was one of my dealers for many years. In your area there are many older trucks, maybe even going back to the 3 series. If you need any information on the older equipment, let me know.
  • Posted 20 Apr 2007 12:32
  • Reply by charlie_j
  • California, United States
Take time to do the job right the first time, or you will have to make time to do the job over

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