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DISCUSSION FORUMS : Forkliftaction.communicate
Forum: Safety, training & legislation
Discussion:  Forklift Accidents
Number of messages: 42
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jeff_m
Ontario, Canada 		Typically it is aisle traffic. Sometimes the trucks have a load, sometimes they don't. In many cases, there has been 20ft or more between the column and the next obstacle. I'm going to try the suggestion of marking out the floor around the column in a few spots and see what kind of feedback I get from the operators.

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Jeff

Posted 14 Dec 2010 05:20 AM Reply  Report this message
Laurens
Gelderland, Netherlands 		If the operators can not see the obstacles, adding a mirror or camera system may help to prevent damages and accidents.

Products like Shockwatch are intended to disable the forklift after a collision to make it possible to identify the operator.

Posted 14 Dec 2010 08:29 AM Reply  Report this message
MaxaM60
Bristol, United Kingdom

 		Sounds like you and your company have done everything you can to prevent this - except for making the operators responsible for their own actions.  Union shop or not, if someone was stood by these colums they would now most likely be dead - no union in the world would condone this.  First off operator selection is important, responsible attitude is very important.  The operator has to face consequences for their actions, maybe a fine system, loss of bonus, job demotion?  As in life itself people have to be made responsible for their own actions, if you or your company are accepting full responsibility for your operators maybe thats the root cause of the problem ?  (IMHO)

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Instructor, RTITB Tutor, ITSSAR Cat' 4 Tutor

Posted 3 Feb 2011 08:31 PM Reply  Report this message
cownd
Arizona, United States

 		Have you tried limiting the travel speed? We have an indoor speed limit of 5mph and outdoor speed limit of 7mph. It has cut the travel speed in half but productivity has not been affected much. We have the Yale VX series forklifts so setting and experimenting with speeds has been easy.

Posted 15 Mar 2011 07:23 AM Reply  Report this message
jeff_m
Ontario, Canada 		We have governed the trucks speed as you have. I don't think speed is the problem. I think it comes down to drivers being focused and aware of their surroundings. We are currently revising our forklift policy with the intent to improve how we deal with accidents/incidents.

Posted 16 Mar 2011 10:53 PM Reply  Report this message
cownd
Arizona, United States

 		I think limiting the speed has helped us to a point. We also have incident investigations that involve several people, offending department lead, UA, and recertifications. One other thing we do is keep a metric of all forklift damage with a $ amount to each incident and then share that with our lead team. The SPA for that is our maintenance department who eventually see the reported or not reported damage. The bottom line for us is accountability at the department lead and first line supervisor levels. The first year we started our metric tracking we had $70,000 worth of damage the very next year it dropped $22,000. It takes time and dedication to accomplish this but; it has paid off with less damage, safer environment for our operators, and pedestrians, and a real cost savings as a bonus.

Posted 17 Mar 2011 01:09 AM Reply  Report this message
jeff_m
Ontario, Canada 		In the event one of your drivers has an accident, what steps do you take ? Is the driver pulled off the truck, is there "re-training", discipline, etc. ?

Posted 17 Mar 2011 01:33 AM Reply  Report this message
cownd
Arizona, United States

 		The driver is not allowed to operate until the investigation is complete, the UA has cleared, and they have passed recertification as a forklift operator. If they have three or more incidents with-in a year they are then evaluated by the management lead team. It has been effective for us but it comes down to setting an example by staying with-in the policy we have set forth which could be anything from retraining to termination.

Posted 17 Mar 2011 02:24 AM Reply  Report this message
andrew_j
Florida, United States 		Jeff,
I have recently seen and evaluated a product that might help you with your problem.It is not available in the USA/CA market yet and wee are looking for test sites to see if it would eliminate this specific problem.It works extremely well at Aisle ends but we get a lot of calls for your type problem. Please contact me directly for more info.
Not wishing to be mysterious but it is still patent pending.
Andrew Jordan take out the no spam
NO SPAM ([url/email removed])

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I learn from my customers and mistakes

Posted 17 Mar 2011 04:15 AM Reply  Report this message
jeff_m
Ontario, Canada 		Andrew - you're email ?

Posted 17 Mar 2011 04:37 AM Reply  Report this message
andrew_j
Florida, United States 		Jeff,
Tried to put it in and it would not let me, see my profile and there is my company just put sales in front of rack with no space protect and then a com afterwards

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I learn from my customers and mistakes

Posted 17 Mar 2011 05:19 AM Reply  Report this message
dan_m
Ontario, Canada 		Many valid suggestions by many professionals and our friend, who seems to have tried everything, is still troubled.

Simple! Besides all else, hit them in their wallets. Everytime they strike a column, fine them, 2,3,5 dollars. Collect the money and use it for a company summertime bRbque or Christmasy thingy. Keeps you out of trouble with the union, should keep everyone from driving into the columns. And I am serious!

Modified 24 Mar 2011 09:02 PM
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mrfixit
New York, United States

 		One of my customers just got so fed up with forklifts hitting posts, overhead doors, and each other, installed surveillance  cameras. Someone's job is to watch operations. Anyone hitting something is given 3 days off, no pay, to think about how to drive better. A 5 year employee just spent Tues.- Thurs. at home.

Posted 15 Apr 2011 09:04 AM Reply  Report this message
cownd
Arizona, United States

 		At ProMat this year I looked at a system from Keytronics who mfg's forklift monitoring systems. I was impressed with the fact that this system goes beyond the general impact monitor and can notify of an impact by email notification, this is just a small example of the systems capabilities. I am ordering the Keytronic system on our next new machine and will put it to the test. Keep in mind any system is only as good as your company’s policies.

Posted 16 Apr 2011 00:32 AM Reply  Report this message
Trainer68
Western Australia, Australia 		Let's sit the operator down and have a robust discussion regarding his obligations to his family first.  In this way we might facilitate a natural sequence of responsibilities leading to better conduct during each shift.  Building columns are designed to withstand some impact, yes, but society is less tolerant.  Refresher training 'is' a slap on the rist, if a workplace breach has occured, repeatedly.  Sit him/her down at work with their life partner and 'go over' the rules again.  See how the Minister for Internal Finances and Home Activities (operator's wife/husband) reacts to this.  The operator might improve after such a special meeting.  One may assume.

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John Staltari

Posted 22 Apr 2011 10:42 AM Reply  Report this message
Budman
Alabama, United States

 		There's a couple of different Impact Sensor devices such as Shockwatch or G-Force that you can buy from any of your local forklift dealers. It depends on how in-depth you want to get as to which of either one of these that you are interested in. Either one can show you at the time of impact, who was operating lift, how hard the impact was. You can also have them completely shut down the machine and have to be reset by supervisor. Also either one can give you fleet reports too.

Posted 23 Apr 2011 01:07 AM Reply  Report this message
glen_s
British Columbia, Canada 		Wireless proximity and wireless proximity automatic speed control systems are available
I have been designing and engineering wireless safety solutions for the last 5 years, using the latest products available for the overall improved safety of the material handling industries

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Glen

www.seaportsolution.com

Main 778-896-8541

Posted 3 Aug 2011 11:31 AM Reply  Report this message
glen_s
British Columbia, Canada 		Wireless Proximity safety and wireless automatic speed control technologies

Our most recent customers are becoming aware of the requirements concerning company accountability for the safety of their employees. This system allows for the automatic notification of either personnel and or other machines in the immediate vicinity of the machine they are in control of.

In one of our customers large outdoor production facilities the amount of heavy equipment and large truck traffic including the presence of people walking, was of great safety concern for both the operators as well as pedestrians, to know when their safety and health was potentially being compromised was a very real issue. Now with all of their equipment being fitted with our M2M / M2P alert systems as well as personal tags, all of the people working on the site are now aware of everyone else wirelessly / automatically.


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Glen

www.seaportsolution.com

Main 778-896-8541

Posted 3 Aug 2011 11:56 AM Reply  Report this message
casey_d
Texas, United States 		Yea. I'd suggest some retraining maby.

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Posted 24 Aug 2011 09:09 AM Reply  Report this message
ventureglen
British Columbia, Canada 		I can provide you with a wireless control solution, when forklift gets closer than programed range from the post an alarm will activate on the forklift or on the post as well you can optionaly shut the machine off untill a manager resets the machine with a hand held remote seaportsolution.com

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Glen 778-896-8541
www.seaportsolution.com

Posted 24 Aug 2011 09:17 AM Reply  Report this message
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