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about stacking loaded containers

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finn_r
New South Wales, Australia

what do you think is the safest way to stack containers,how much gap in the rows and between them and sides etc.
personally i like to be able to walk in between the rows and insist on a small gap so the containers are not actually touching back to back.
i,m interested in your opinions.

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Posted 14 Dec 2009 07:34 PM

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joseph_h
Michigan, United States

finn r:

A gap uses valuable space but it decreases the chance of operator error during loading/unloading and increases the efficiency of the operator. The gap also allows firefighters to apply water should a fire occur in the stack to minimize fire spread.

Here is a repost from 25 JUN 2006. If you can't find recommendations in the GDV CONTAINERHANDBOOK, they probably don't exist.

For quick access to the English version:

Google: containerhandbuch.de/

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Are you looking for safety or accident prevention information on ISO containers, cargo hazards, packaging, or load securing in general? You will find a vast amount of such information online at the following web sites:

Gesamtverband der Deutschen Versicherungswirtschaft e.V. (GDV) the German Insurance Association (GDV eV) has put its Container Handbook online (English or German version). This online handbook is probably the most extensive source of information currently available on intermodal containers and container shipping.

If you have anything to do with ISO container shipping or handling, this is definitely the container bible. You will find information here that probably exists no where else. Excellent subject material, photos, and illustrations.

The online materials can be used for in house non-commercial (not for profit) training. Review the legal notice link.

If you do not use ISO containers, you may want to review this site anyway as the subject material is fascinating. You think you have logistics problems?

Google: GDV CONTAINERHANDBOOK or GDV CONTAINERHANDBUCH

A printed copy of the GDV Container Handbook is currently available in German. A printed English version should be available by the end of 2006. The handbook consists of three volumes (approximately 1500 pages total).

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Another resource provided by Gesamtverband der Deutschen Versicherungswirtschaft e.V. (GDV) the Transport Information Service (TIS) from the German Insurance Association (GDV eV) is their online information on cargo properties, packaging, load securing, etc.

Google: TRANSPORT INFORMATION SERVICE GDV or TIS GDV

If you are responsible for shipping materials by truck, rail, or marine, you will find this information invaluable. Excellent subject material, photos, and illustrations.

If you need a good laugh, you can stroll through several pictorial lessons featuring shipping stupidity.

Modified 17 Dec 2009 10:53 PM
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finn_r
New South Wales, Australia

thank you Joseph for a tonne of valuable information,
i will google this immediately and many thanks for the warning of 1500 pages,i hope my old pc can handle it.
i have recently started a new job and found it odd that the containers are so tightly stacked together i find this unsafe and ,i usually only do this tightly stacking on a lockdown prior to holidays
I would have replied sooner but there was a very large uninvited black snake in my house for several days,etc etc.

Posted 18 Dec 2009 07:17 PM

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joseph_h
Michigan, United States

finn r:

The following NATO document (FM55-60 Chapter 6 Marshaling Yard Operations) may also be of interest:

Google: globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/55-60/Ch6.htm

Posted 19 Dec 2009 09:33 PM

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finn_r
New South Wales, Australia

Thank you again Joseph H,with the last suggested website i was able to confirm that yes a couple of inches space at the back of containers is safer than the containers touching back to back, and the suggested space at the lenght of the containers is one foot as the minimum recommended space optimising the safe and fast handling of containers without doing any damage due to tight fit.
there is a lot of other information there which will come in very handy
regards finn.

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Posted 20 Dec 2009 12:46 AM

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bill_reimundus
Essex, United Kingdom

There is one aspect of container stacking that still defies safe handling procedures -- the widespread and deliberate under declaring of container payloads which costs governments and shipping lines billions of pounds a year in lost revenues and can play a major role in sinking ships or losing containers overboard.

There is, as yet, no legal requirement in European ports to weigh containers before loading them on ships. Rather, the container stuffer or consignor's word is taken as an accurate statement of payload. Until such weighing is mandatory at all ports the risks remain of container and crane topples in ports and on roads from grossly overloaded lorries, with lethal consequences. The various shipping bodies are looking at bringing in legislation to resolve the deliberate under declaration but until that becomes law lifters beware.

Posted 22 Feb 2010 01:37 AM

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finn_r
New South Wales, Australia

Hi Bill thanks for your reply
my employer has his own weighbridge and believe me it is used for exactly that pupose,all day long,to weigh the loaded containers prior to loading them onto one of his daily trains to port
(i call him the train baron)
basicly it works like this that every entry is weighed prior to unloading and again before leaving the yard

i have worked in many parts of this industry and the modern lifting machines have scales fitted to them so it,s easy to tell if the weight declaration is correct.
on a last note trailers are being fitted with weight dials so it,s easy to tell how much weight is being carried.

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Modified 24 Feb 2010 06:31 PM
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pramod_k
California, United States

I you have the vehical with havey loaded goods, the the possibility of their to catch the fire is maximum.

Posted 24 Mar 2010 10:22 PM

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