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Forum: Industry News & Whispers
Discussion:  Heli forklifts
Number of messages: 68
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steve_l
Tennessee, United States

 		Heli is the largest manufacturer of forklifts in China. They supply forklifts to a country with a population of over 1 billion people and a booming economy. I suspect that Heli wouldn't have to sell any forklifts outside of China to rank in the top 20. The questions I would ask are how many forklifts did Heli sell outside of China, the dollar value of those sales, and the geographic spread of those truck sales. Parts availability follows those items.

All that being said: Beware US forklift manufacturers - The Chinese are coming!

Posted 14 May 2006 01:33 PM Reply  Report this message
steponmebbbboom
Ontario, Canada

 		"top 20" by units sold. That has nothing to do with their quality. I will also tell you that their quality, and parts availability have not significantly improved. I continue to service Heli trucks for our customers and continue to have these problems. Heli is an inferior truck. Wal-mart special.

I think the last time we had this discussion the topic was deleted.

Posted 19 May 2006 09:16 AM Reply  Report this message
steponmebbbboom
Ontario, Canada

 		Here's a point of contention, All of the hydraulic hoses on the Heli lift trucks use a metric flat-face O ring fitting that is not available locally, it either has to be ordered from the dealer at hideously high prices (I was quoted almost $500 for one section of hose) or the fittings have to be custom ordered from an aftermarket mfr with engineering costs, or, the swivel end has to be cut off the old fitting and silver soldered onto a modified stock fitting. On a typically $30 sideshift end hose I am paying upwards of $150 to have this done. Also, every hose seems to be attached on at least one end to a union that is also a weldment, so a full conversion to JIC or something isnt feasible.

Posted 19 May 2006 09:21 AM Reply  Report this message
trainer
Indiana, United States 		Hey guess what Yugo was the number 15 top producing automobile in the world!

Yugo could you please and say hi....Yugo?

How is Hystu (sp?) I mean Tai Lift I mean Heli doing in NA sales?

Posted 20 May 2006 04:06 AM Reply  Report this message
steponmebbbboom
Ontario, Canada

 		in our cheap and crappy NA culture, I am sure Heli will sell well. If Walmart is any gauge of the public's understanding of quality, look out indeed, China is coming.

Posted 20 May 2006 11:13 AM Reply  Report this message
jim_c
Ontario, Canada 		Steponmebbbboom,

I strongly recommend that you post accurate information if you are going to post in this "reputable" forum. I assure you, as the Canadian distributor of Heli forklifts, that Steponmebbbboom's statements are inaccurate for current Heli products. He is merely a basher with strong ties to the competition. I recommend that everyone do there own due diligence when purchasing a forklift.

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JC

Posted 23 May 2006 11:46 PM Reply  Report this message
Joei
Kepri, Indonesia 		Dear Jim C

May I know there'r any heli Dealer at Singapore or Indonesian ??? If , Yes may you give me their contact address phone,etc

also,may you tell me please the benefit for purchase heli diesel even electric forklift

Compare to Mitsubishi Diesel Forklift & Nichiyu Electric Truck Which one should be better more ?? About The Initial Purchase Price,Quality,and Parts


Regards

Joei
Posted 1 Aug 2006 02:17 PM Reply  Report this message
jim_c
Ontario, Canada 		I strongly recommend that you contact the Heli Factory for the distributor in your country.

Good luck!


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JC

Posted 20 Sep 2006 10:33 AM Reply  Report this message
chris_c
Tennessee, United States 		Hank

Could I touch base with you regarding your experience in Argentina and any knowledge you have about the acceptance of Heli in Argentina.  Very interested in reaching out on this.  My number is 901-684-1082.

If you could send me your contact info, I can call you.

Thanks.

Posted 9 Dec 2006 06:43 AM Reply  Report this message
chris_c
Tennessee, United States 		Jim - what kind of volume is being done in Canada as an example.  Would be a good indication of whether Heli was being accepted in the market - do you know?

Posted 9 Dec 2006 06:45 AM Reply  Report this message
jim_c
Ontario, Canada 		Heli Canada has been VERY successful. I'm sorry, but I'm not able to comment on sales numbers on a public forum. Acceptance has been very good. Acceptance is a product of the Canadian Forklift Distributors Limited, Heli Canada and its dealers that are behind the product. That is what makes the line successful. In the past, this support did not exist. Today, Heli is making the right decisions. This will come in the US soon through the US distributors.

Posted 9 Dec 2006 08:23 AM Reply  Report this message
Holzy
Singapore, Singapore 		Dear Jim
You are for obvious reasons very pro Heli and surely they offer  a very competitive price at a quality of x (sorry have not tried Heil before).
Surely, as a rather new player on any market they will have problems to support compare to the big market player (whoever they are).
I personally would guess that selling is not the issue but as we all know we face problems on the after sales service. Parts Prices, Parts availability, delivery time,  response time from Service Technician/Engineers and sure when starting up a rather small and wide spread network.
Guessing that this is nothing new when you introduce a “new” brand.
I would also guess that the NA market is around 110-115K new units a year, why don’t you just tell us how very good you have done and how you handle your after sales.
Regards
Holzy


Posted 15 Dec 2006 05:31 PM Reply  Report this message
jim_c
Ontario, Canada 		Visit our website at heliforkliftcanada.com. This will tell you all you need to know. We service only Canada.

Keep in mind that the Heli is by no means a new product. Heli has been manufacturing machines and parts for TCM and others including their own line since the 60's.

I'm not ramming the Heli product down anyone's throat. I am merely asking people to do their own research rather than listen to the competition bashing the product on this forum. Incorrect information is posted regularly. Heli is on the right track in the past few years.

JC

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JC

Posted 16 Dec 2006 00:40 AM Reply  Report this message
tom_c
Utah, United States 		Your tools:    NEWS: Full story   Newsletter #293 (View other news stories)
Indian forklift maker enters world rankings
ESSLINGEN, Germany
Thursday, 18 January 2007




  
Nacco Industries has replaced Jungheinrich in third-place ranking in German magazine dhf’s World Ranking List of Manufacturers of Powered Industrial Trucks for 2005/06, while an Asian manufacturer made a surprise appearance.

The annual survey, conducted by dhf chief editor Wolfgang Degenhard exclusively for dhf, revealed the top 10 as:
• Toyota Industries Corp (Japan)
• Kion (Germany)
• Nacco Corp (USA)
• Jungheinrich (Germany)
• Crown Equipment Corp (USA)
• Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (Japan)
• Cargotec (Finland)
• Komatsu Ltd (Japan)
• Manitou (France)
• Nissan Motor Company (Japan)

With truck sales valued at EUR2.2 billion (USD2.85 billion), Nacco Corp, which produces Yale, Hyster, Deca and Sumitomo forklifts, has surpassed Jungheinrich, which made truck sales of EUR1.497 billion (USD1.94 billion) for 2005.

Crown Equipment Corp moved up one, supplanting Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. Doosan Corp also moved up one, up replacing Nippon Yosuki, the Nichiyu forklift manufacturer, at number 12.

Former 18th-ranked Terex Corp moved five positions down to number 23. Chinese manufacturers Anhui Heli and Hangzhou each moved one position up to 16th and 18th respectively.
Posted 19 Jan 2007 05:12 AM Reply  Report this message
tom_c
Utah, United States 		A US distributor for the Heli is Southwest Equipment Sales located in Denver, CO.

Posted 19 Jan 2007 05:27 AM Reply  Report this message
bernard_l
malaysia, Singapore 		if joei of indonesia cannot find a heli dealer, please contact +65 96915499 singapore- not a problem to help those in the forklift industry - a noble industry not to be spoilt by some who have "pea" brain size with unnecesary competitive ugly spirit..
Let us all who are in Lift service dont give lip service but excellent service to each other overtime.

Let us be brothers bcos we have the same blood of the same industries.

Posted 20 Jan 2007 09:47 PM Reply  Report this message
Drlifttruck
Texas, United States 		Hmmmmmmmmm may be your market not your product choice.

Think before you speak?



Regards

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Lift Trucks all the same, just painted different colors.
Doc
Email: kulsh@forkliftservice.net

Posted 22 Mar 2007 11:24 AM Reply  Report this message
Drlifttruck
Texas, United States 		Jim,

With all due respect you want to compare yourself to Clark?

Clark has fallen, fallen and even continues to fall!!!

Would you like a detailed history of what Clark Equipment Company has done to our business?

Let us start at the end of WWII. the TCM deal?

Then the TCM Michigan Loader deal?

Oh and not to forget the Clark Melroe TCM deal?

Oh how about that fateful day, in Battle Creek Michigan, when they let all of those Japaneese people ........HMMM my  memory is fading, been a while, long ago, ooooh oooh oooh  I remember  they let all of those Japaneese forklift people come in an Photograph every inch of the Clark Facility in BC Michigan.

Then shortly after that the US recieved the  "You asked it you got Toyota forklift" with Datsun AKA Nissan to follow.

Jim I was there that day in BC!!!!!, that was the day the music died.

Do not forget the ECA, GPX, GCX.

Make sure to read the 987 service bulletins for each one of these models, before you trouble shoot any of these.

If you do not have them do not bother to contact Clark the Hat because they lost these documents in a flood in wherever they were stored and that was not BC, it does not flood there.

Clark was once THE UNDISPUTED KING, once, but that was long ago and far away, remember 65% market share, 356 models?

I am not even going to go into the Brazil nightmare, or the other disasters CLARK  made., Lexinton, Bowling Green, Mitsubishi, Bruse ETC,.

Oh here is another one do not forget the Drexall disaster of the late 80's, the bankruptcies of the 90's and 2K.

The less than 60% fill rate to their dealers and no parts available due to credit hold from their vendors and bankrupticie leins of the late 90's  and early 2K?

I would never compare myself to the Korean Hat Manufacture of the Clark of today.

One more, I forgot, the Samsung deal as well,  oh yea right Clark the forklift, I strongly disagree!!!  I am thinking Clark the Hat?

The Clark name and logo has only one thing left and that is name recognization, and the Korean hat guy will loose that for them as well.

No not ever at all would I even mention my name along with the Clark of today.

I owe CLARK Equipment Company Battle Creek Michigan  my career, but have no alliegance to the Clark of today.

OK Jim :

Tell the truth!

Heli, is TCM China!  

TCM did in fact support modernizing forklift truck manufacturing facilities in China including Anhui Heli through its holding company, Anhui Forklift (group) Corp. This was done under the technology transfer agreement according to Chinese government requests from 1985 to 1993. Then, TCM and Anhui Forklift (group) Corp. founded two joint venture companies, one for manufacturing and distributing TCM brand forklift trucks for sales in China under a TCM brand name, another for producing a basic forklift truck component ñ counter weights. A new factory has grown out of this joint venture, and it may possibly produce forklift trucks in the future for sale in Asian countries neighboring China.  

Does the US border CHINA, I need to check my Geography.

Read between the lines.

Anyone can research this, crikies mate!

TCM is playing with the same deck of cards Clark gave them, only 3 decades later.  

History does repeat itself, I guess that is because people die, and new Idiots are born, this can be the only reason!

The North American Coal guy is probably looking for another OEM to add, Clark may be next maybe TCM ANULI HELI.


Then the new NACCO Green truck will have a built in toaster!

My rant is finished.

Regards



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Lift Trucks all the same, just painted different colors.
Doc
Email: kulsh@forkliftservice.net

Posted 22 Mar 2007 12:35 AM Reply  Report this message
jim_c
Ontario, Canada 		Kevan,

I was merely referencing Heli's position in world rankings, not comparing to Clark.

You really ought to take your meds. Not sure that your posts have any relevance at all. Not sure why you are here.

It's always nice to know that the competition is paying attention. Do your own due diligence when researching a forklift.

Jim

Posted 22 Mar 2007 12:57 AM Reply  Report this message
Drlifttruck
Texas, United States 		No Jim,

I am not your competition.  Do not know wher you drew that conclusion.

I have done my research Jim, it is you who have failed to research.

On the other hand I do not know why you are here other than to tout your inferior product.

Regards

Diligence aside.

I stated fact there.
Posted 24 Mar 2007 11:57 PM Reply  Report this message
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