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DISCUSSION FORUMS : Forkliftaction.communicate
Forum: Technical arena
Discussion:  Hyster 120 xl 3
Number of messages: 23
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genjohn
NB, Netherlands

 		Get problem with Code 94 brusch worn
Check every thing but they perfect.
This appears every time when i thake A direction en when I drive
en this only for 1 second end is gone.
There is 1 box monted for Traction en 1 interface (pomp) and my cabels from bruches coming in that interface card.
Is some wone their they can help me with this problem.
Or with some drawings or explenatie of this interface end the code's of this type of lifttruck.

Kindly regards

john  Netherlands

Posted 31 Mar 2007 04:40 PM Reply  Report this message
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justinm
New York, United States

 		seeing it only shows up for a second the sensor harnsess might have a loose or dirty connection although im not sure how that hyster would be set up
im imagining it has an ev200 system like the 1 i have in my area

a few english corrections (as im sure its not your everyday language) just to help
cable not cabel
brush not bruch
"1 second end is gone." should be "1 second and is gone."
"some wone their they can help" should be "someone there that can help" there, their, and they're can be very tricky to use correctly when english is a second language
im part dutch too but i can speak maybe 3 words lol

speaking of good english translations
"have a good luck"


Posted 1 Apr 2007 03:09 AM Reply  Report this message
genjohn
NB, Netherlands

 		try dutch When you speak dutch Than you can sea 3 words lol
Try my langage
sorry you try

Zeg mij maar een s na in jou taal ut
vertaal het eens.

Modified 2 Apr 2007 05:43 AM
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justinm
New York, United States

 		wow i was trying to be helpful not hurtful
o well
i speak spanish (not well but i have to in new york these days) and i appreciate corrections
i dont yell at some1 trying to help me
so ill give you and your post a big "bronx cheer"



Posted 1 Apr 2007 05:40 AM Reply  Report this message
genjohn
NB, Netherlands

 		OKE I'am sorry
I'ts  not EV 100
Their is one box grey general electric (Traction)
And A small box I think A interface for lift and communicatie to dashboard.
lifttruck got 4 contactors
I see this never be for

I see only EV 100 and 200  and 2 grey box general electric POMP and DRIVE

Posted 1 Apr 2007 03:14 PM Reply  Report this message
proshadetree
Tennessee, United States

 		Check also brush wear sensor.Make sure p5 and p6 is not shorted.Also if you have a diffrent pump controler to try to see if code still occurs.Hope that helps

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Posted 1 Apr 2007 10:56 PM Reply  Report this message
genjohn
NB, Netherlands

 		Thanks
Do you have A wiring diagram of this pomp controller or other info about this lifttruck
and maybe code's of fault's of this lifttruck
I cant get NO info of this type lifttruck in europe.
This truck come's from some ware of amerika
Maybe you can help me.

Kindly regards

John.

Posted 2 Apr 2007 00:03 AM Reply  Report this message
justinm
New York, United States

 		from what i can tell you have a ge sx (separately excited) controller and series pump control
probably the 750 amp version
traction is a grey box with 2 plugs (23 pin and the z plug) with a ge logo molded in the cover
the front has the 2 small field cables by the logo
and the heavier cables are by the plugs on the bottom (a1 a2 + and -)
you have 2 controls 1 for traction 1 for pump
all brush wear monitoring goes to the pump control (replaces tmm7 in ev100 trucks)
like prosh said make sure p5-5 and p5-6 are not shorted to positive (on pump controller)
other than that make sure the brush wear sensors and brushes are good and nothing is loose that may be coming in contact with a positive source (maybe loose wire in the brush holder, carbon buildup, is there frame voltage and and exposed wires touching the frame? [brush wear wires in mitsu they are wires 85 and 86 they may be the same in a hyster] , etc)

this is an american machine
i have the book for the ev100/ev200 120xl but not the sx version
i have the ge technical papers for your controller get the ge part # it should start with ic3645
most ge systems are set up the same way including wire #s so im sure a mitsu diagram could help u  


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Modified 2 Apr 2007 09:59 AM
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proshadetree
Tennessee, United States

 		Harlekein@hotmail dot com is this you email?genjohn

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Modified 2 Apr 2007 09:16 PM
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genjohn
NB, Netherlands

 		YES thats right

john.

Posted 2 Apr 2007 10:29 PM Reply  Report this message
proshadetree
Tennessee, United States

 		Sent hope it helps

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"Work leads to profit, mere talk leads to poverty"

Posted 3 Apr 2007 10:53 AM Reply  Report this message
genjohn
NB, Netherlands

 		Thanks thats wer I can work with.
I did make all measerments, I did the check with wiring, remove wiring.
But nothing helps I did take A other contacter Driver card same problem.
I take Another Display NO always lighting up 94 traction brush
I think the problem come's out the traction control is that possible.

I thank you very much for the pdf

If you got more of this type hyster or other models I be glad when you send it me.
When you want somthing you can ask me to
I got Clark BT  Linde Pimespo Still etc. etc.
You got  my other email adress now

Thanks so far

John.

Posted 4 Apr 2007 02:49 AM Reply  Report this message
proshadetree
Tennessee, United States

 		Possible but I dont think so check wire dia sent and let me know what happens

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Posted 4 Apr 2007 08:17 AM Reply  Report this message
genjohn
NB, Netherlands

 		First thanks for the info
I get to day compleet mat I dith all measerments again
Compleet wiring out check all good
check all again for wath you say
Now I got other Hyster in workshop again amerika truck
check everything , His functie everything  good
I look on traction module same number
But in this truck was A Gry module for lifting
But I thake out the traction Box
End I put IT in the other truck.
You don't believe
94 was gone
And the truck has no problems now.
Strange problem when I see the wiring diagrams, is this not possible!!!!!!
When you see the configuratie is this put off
everything goes by  the lift module.

But I am very glad with the info
It helps me very good.
When you have more info of this type truck  axel ,and hoist or compleet of truck I will be very happy always you can send me every thing about of hyster.
My mailbox is about 1000 mb great

First I will you thanks for the info
My problem is gone Thanks

Kindly regards

Jr v Happen

John  From the netherlands

I hope whe get contact.

Posted 5 Apr 2007 04:52 AM Reply  Report this message
justinm
New York, United States

 		maybe when you were moving the wires and cables you moved 2 shorted wires and accidentally fixed it
the 2 controls and the dash talk to eachother thru the serial com


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New York, New York its a heluva town ..you know that The Bronx is up ..and im Brooklyn down

Posted 5 Apr 2007 08:03 AM Reply  Report this message
proshadetree
Tennessee, United States

 		Forklifts go figure? Sometimes it the small stuff and you move something and its solved but you dont why.

Posted 5 Apr 2007 10:14 AM Reply  Report this message
justinm
New York, United States

 		yeah esp with ge's
you should send him the page about servicing the plugs
the 1st thing i always do with ge systems is unplug and plug back in everything sometimes that fixes em
clean em with nonconductive contact cleaner and use the lubricant
they are in a kit - ge part# 328a1777g1
it contains  1 "chemtronics pow-r-wash CZ" spray cleaner
and 2 tubes of "Nye 760g" lubriacant
the book says not to use any other product so try and get the kit
clean and lubricate all 23 and 12 pin plugs as per the ge manual
microscopic fretting and oxidation is always an issue on ge products
i can scan and send you the page if you need it but all you have to do is service the harness side of the plug not the control side
if the truck was made after 99 it should have been serviced when new but some applications should be serviced yearly (high vibration freezer etc) id re service the plugs just for the heck of it anyway as this sometimes is the source of intermittant issues with ge
the lube looks like a clear paste with a blue tint to it


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New York, New York its a heluva town ..you know that The Bronx is up ..and im Brooklyn down

Modified 5 Apr 2007 01:49 PM
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proshadetree
Tennessee, United States

 		Dont recall that one.Send me a copy proshadetree at yahoodotcom.

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Posted 5 Apr 2007 07:46 PM Reply  Report this message
justinm
New York, United States

 		sent prosh fwd it to genjohn too

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Posted 6 Apr 2007 04:44 AM Reply  Report this message
genjohn
NB, Netherlands

 		Whath you mean justinm I don't understand wath you mean.
Send fwd

John.

Posted 6 Apr 2007 02:18 PM Reply  Report this message
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