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Discussion:  Starting problems
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steve_h
West Midlands, United Kingdom

TCM FD25T3.
When cold, engine starts without fail after normal heat to glow plugs. After using truck for any length of time and then leaving to stand for short while will not restart, no signs of smoke from exhaust! Have checked the obvious but has any one had similar problems?

Posted 17 Dec 2010 02:58 AM Reply  Report this message
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grubbymits
scotland, United Kingdom
blockage in fuel system . i had same on a big linde . it would run fine all day till they stopped for tea. found debris in primer pump .fuelcap breather was blocked too

Posted 17 Dec 2010 03:59 AM Reply  Report this message
justinm
New York, United States

Like grubby alluded to: check the cap. It could be plugged or the wrong one altogether. I had a customer call me on a big Liftking once. They stated it would run great but after a while it would sputter and stall. They had the injectors and pump rebuilt with no change in the symptoms. I walked up to the truck, took a peek around, opened the fuel cap and "whoosh!", a huge rush of air as the vacuum in the tank was relieved. Someone had replaced the cap with a non-ventilated cap. Diesels need a vented cap because  the lift pump won't be able to build enough pressure to overcome vacuum built up in the tank (due to the difference in the volume of fuel moving between the feed and the return). If you let it sit the vacuum might be finding a place to bleed off allowing restart after some time.

Also make sure your returns aren't blocked like he said too.

I've also found debris in primer pumps and lines but usually they're just dead with no chance of restarting... usually lol.

Tell your customer that when it happens again, remove the cap and listen for air rushing in and restart it with the cap off. Then order him a a new cap if that seems to correct the issue.

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Modified 19 Dec 2010 06:09 AM
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AndyPandy
Staffordshire, WM, United Kingdom

I agree with the other answers but it also could be the injection pump.  I have known a truck which would always start from cold and never start hot.  But as soon as it cooled down a bit would start.  It was a rotary pump and this was eventually traced to the pumping element plate which had worked loose, once tightened and refitted all was well.  

Posted 19 Dec 2010 06:25 AM Reply  Report this message
justinm
New York, United States

Never seen that happen. Good job!

Remember, always start simple (and cheap) and work your way up!

The people with that liftking found that out the hard way lol.

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New York, New York its a heluva town ..you know that The Bronx is up ..and im Brooklyn down

Posted 19 Dec 2010 06:28 AM Reply  Report this message


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