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jerry_p
Netherlands, Netherlands

I am restoring a STILL R70 forklift (1988). It has serious electric problems both the control circuit boards are suspect. Does anyone have the details on the boards?
Please help me out.

Thanks
Jerry

Posted 20 Jun 2006 05:35 AM

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jerry_p
Netherlands, Netherlands

By the way, I do not understand why the manufacturer doesn't release his nearly 20 years old design.

STILL GmbH, come one, put your 20-year-old stuff on the Internet!!

Posted 20 Jun 2006 05:47 AM

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gary_b
Strathclyde, United Kingdom

Hi...I have a bit of experience on these trucks. I take it that it has just 2 PCB,s...a power board & a logic board, also you don,t say if it diesel or gas & what size is IT?

Posted 23 Jun 2006 03:47 AM

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jerry_p
Netherlands, Netherlands

Hi gary. The nameplate says TFG 2.5/7019, the service manual says R70-25T. It runs on LPG. You are correct it has a logic and a power board. I have the drawing on the electric wiring from the yellow service manual.
I am looking for the diagrams of the logic and power board and if possible an explanation on the purpose of measuring points on the boards.
Thanks

Posted 23 Jun 2006 05:36 AM

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gert_b
asfafa, Netherlands

hi jerry,

do you have found any drawings?
i have the same problem with a diesel truck

Modified 30 Nov 2006 06:19 AM
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jerry_p
Netherlands, Netherlands

Hi gert,

I used the wiring diagram from the service manual. Eventually i replaced all elco's from the control circuit board and one cracked resistor. To my surprise the circuit board worked then i found out that the power board was damaged also. All the power transistors were removed and compared. One proofed to be damaged, this one was replace by a equivalent transistor bought at Conrad electronics. This solved the problem.

Send your email address and i will forward the drawings and pictures. By the way if you look carefully at your circuit board you may find components that have changed colour. These parts have been hot for a longer period of time, replace them and you may get lucky. I may take you several hours in the sun before you spot these parts.
Regards,
Gerrit

Posted 30 Nov 2006 07:21 AM

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perkinss
Kentucky, United States

jerry p, this is larry perkins from louisville ky 15027276903.
would it be possible that you send me any information available on the still 4klb 1989 with diesel mercedes power?
note that the diesel cars are my speciality and i do a complete rebuild on the 4-5-6 clyl diesel,i fi can help just ask.

Posted 13 Dec 2006 04:35 AM

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perkinss
Kentucky, United States

sorry i didnt post my e mail,its [url/email removed],also note that any cost or fees involved will be reinbursed. advise

Posted 13 Dec 2006 05:00 AM

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wilson_c
H.K, China

I have a STILL R70 16(1995), I had lost the manual long ago, now my truck got a problem of the driving, it can able to start and raise the arm, but did not move, I supposed some component has damaged, I would like to have a electric drawing or service manual, every body would you help?

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Wilson (zwc100@hotmail.com)

Posted 25 Jan 2007 00:54 AM

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darryl_w
Quebec, Canada

I have found a manual the has 28 pages that talk only about the test points and functions on the u200 and e36 boards.
The individual pins on the connectors are discussed one by one in the trouble shooting section.
The earlier service manauls did not have this info, but the later manual written for a later truck, has to be used with a pinch of salt. Essentially the design has stayed the same but there were efforts to improve from one generation of truck to another

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Parts finder expert

Posted 2 Feb 2007 02:33 AM

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alan_b
Devon, United Kingdom

Please could you let me know the serial number of the truck. I could possibly supply the drawing.

Or if you could pay the rent i will come and have a look

Posted 2 Feb 2007 07:29 AM

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wilson_c
H.K, China

Hi Alan My truck is STILL R70-16 sn: 70314605

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Wilson (zwc100@hotmail.com)

Posted 2 Feb 2007 11:31 AM

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alan_b
Devon, United Kingdom

I have a full w/sp manual that i can e-mail.

Can you give me an indication of your problems.

Posted 3 Feb 2007 06:47 AM

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darryl_w
Quebec, Canada

Are you able to open your emailed manual on another computer? Still has locked these manuals that unlock "only" with Still software Steds. even Adobe Pro can't open them. Adobe will say it is Distilling for 30 minutes but at the end it give a quick report it was unable to read the file.
I have a software from Nuance that unlocks them.
in a round about way.

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Posted 3 Feb 2007 08:29 AM

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perkinss
Kentucky, United States

alan b, in your manual is the labeling of the in/outputs of u36 and u200 pc board ledgible? i have a copy that has been photographed and i cant read even 10% of the i/o letters or numbers.
larry perkins lou ky usa

Posted 3 Feb 2007 09:26 AM

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wilson_c
H.K, China

Hi Alan, my truck Still R70-16 sn: 70314605
got a problem of the driving, it can able to start and raise the arm, but did not move, I supposed some component has damaged, I would like to get a w/s manual, if you can send email to me

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Wilson (zwc100@hotmail.com)

Posted 3 Feb 2007 12:21 AM

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alan_b
Devon, United Kingdom

The manuals will open with acrobat. They are encrypted so that the only thing that you can do is read or print them.

I have tried to send the manual to wilson c but got a e-mail today of hotmail delivery failure

Alan
Sorry i forgot the 100 its on its way

Modified 3 Feb 2007 11:16 PM
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alan_b
Devon, United Kingdom

Hi perkinss
I have just looked at the manual on computer and as you say the numbers ar`nt legible,

I will have a look at the printed manual and if its better i will scan and e-mail

Modified 4 Feb 2007 00:36 AM
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perkinss
Kentucky, United States

alan b my email is [url/email removed]
my address is
perkins scale corp
4184 reservoir ave
louisville ky 40213
attention larry perkins
i have a fed x acct that could be used for any deliveries,and will pay a fee ,advise
also alan, i have a design that i used on my truck a dfg 2.5 /7003 that has had the new style u36 and u200 boards installed that had no traction.(us army appears to have had installed ) so to prove i had a good generator and drive motor i used spdt relays to operate the unit. i would how ever like to proceed with re-installing and troubleshooting the still control boards,so its either chase every wire to its control device or get a diagram thats legible,thanks for any help.
also anyone who needs the design i am using is welcome to it.(its at least low cost,i used the 12v relays from a mercedes 123 car)
larry perkins

Posted 4 Feb 2007 01:30 AM

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perkinss
Kentucky, United States

sorry i must have broken a rule, my email address was removed from the post. any how my toll free phone is 18004894333,dont really know if it can be dialed from outside usa borders or not. my cell is 15027276903 and regular business is 15024594333,any cost associated i will pay.
larry perkins
[url/email removed]

Posted 4 Feb 2007 01:38 AM

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