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Installing rearview mirrors

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ralph_c
Ontario, Canada

I have a customer that has decided to install rear-view mirrors on their lift trcuks. Now they would like my opinion. I don't like the idea because the driver now will use the mirrors instead of facing the direction of travel. If they would use the mirrors as well as turning a round, than that would be OK. Just like to get some of the views out there. Thanks. Ralph.

Posted 13 Mar 2009 07:33 PM

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Normandy
Co. Cork, Ireland

I agree absolutely, there is no subistute for looking proberly in the direction of travel be it forward or reverse. It is not like a car where rear-view mirrors are needed to see what is coming up behind you. My personal view is that they would be better off banned in most cases as people just use them to get lazy. We all know what happens when Forklift Operators allow that to happen.

Posted 13 Mar 2009 09:09 PM

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MaxaM60
Bristol, United Kingdom

Totally agree with you there Normandy. All trainers in this forum know that just one of all operators worst areas is lack of or poor observation. IMHO mirrors should be banned on lift trucks

Posted 13 Mar 2009 09:46 PM

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johnr_j
Georgia, United States

Nissan has been providing rear view mirrors (RVM) on sit down riders as standard for many years. And RVMs are commonly found as standard on forklifts built for the Asian markets.
Most other forklift companies (in the US) offer rear view mirrors (some L & R side or center mounted, too) as a standard price book option or as a non-price book listed option.
For certain, if they presented a liability issue in the US one of those "ambulance chasers" from Philadelphia would be on it in a New York minute or faster than a lift truck sales person on a new customer request for quotation.

PS: Nothing against anybody from the Northeast just recalled a couple fitting phases. I have some good friends and acquaintances from these areas. But just can't get used to those New Jersey Cup Handle left turns. For a first time visitor, like I was when I drove 5 miles before I figured how to make a left turn (in New Jersey time 5 miles equals 37 minutes). Overhanging trees covered most the Cup Handle signs. Maybe NJ will get them trimmed with some of Mr. "O" 's stimulus $$ by classifying the need as a "shovel ready" project.

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Posted 15 Mar 2009 03:33 AM

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dan_m
Ontario, Canada

As a safety trainer, in Ontario, as well, I prefer that my students turn their upper torso 180 degrees. You cannot stop the company from installing mirrors however one can try their best to not solely depend on them for rearward vision. The mirrors' peripheral vision is limited.

I have a client that many years ago installed mirrors on their sit-down because the operator was too large to turn around. He was a great forklift operator, wise, efficient and timely with minimal bad habits, but just too large to turn around.

Posted 16 Mar 2009 11:55 PM

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BrianS
Texas, United States

Pana-View 180 degree safety mirror sold by Trading Point in Friendswood, Texas is a very clear and durable early warning mirror. One major OEM big-truck maker installs two in every new truck sold. Can't be used for driving because of the wide view, but the driver can see earhole to earhole at a glance. Trading Point can be reached at 281-648-2723, 8-5 CST. The point is to provide the maximum capability of visual warning before or during movement to the rear. It seems there would be more liability if the driver hits someone in the first five feet of movement backwards and a warning device could have been provided to him.

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Posted 19 Mar 2009 11:48 PM

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Normandy
Co. Cork, Ireland

That unfortunately is because compensation,Liability etc is decided by lawyers and not people who actually understand the situation.

If operators did not move without looking and looked in the direction of travel as they are taught during basic training then they would be less likely to knock anybody down.

Over in this part of the world they are taught that they do not move one inch without looking first. especially in reverse. Unfortunately because of mirrors etc they loose that good habit quickly.

Which brings me to my other pet subject, Supervision and encouragement of good driving procedure, what a pity that is better managed.!!!

Posted 20 Mar 2009 01:58 AM

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johnr_j
Georgia, United States

BrianS

Are U the same Brian from Dallas, TX? & Was relocated to Houston, Area & still work with Bill, Warren & Bob E?

If so this is the guy who ran nose first into a glass door on a boat on Lake Lanier in Atlanta area. That only happen after 4 or more tall "Absolut & Cranberrys" (aka Cape Cods) bewteen 9:30 am & lunch time.

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Posted 20 Mar 2009 02:09 AM

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BrianS
Texas, United States

If I was, would you expect me to admit it after that question?

I'm not, though.

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Posted 20 Mar 2009 02:21 AM

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johnr_j
Georgia, United States

What I meant was "I was the guy who did it ....not the Brian S I knew."

Posted 20 Mar 2009 07:49 AM

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