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Discussion:  Walkie pallet trucks, which one do I choose?
Number of messages: 15
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MFExpress
Quebec, Canada 		I'm on the hunt for a new walkie truck and I've visited 4 of the main vendors in my area.

Cat WP4500        $4995
Crown WP2300   $5200
Yale MPB040-E    $4195
Raymond 102XM  $4295

I've narrowed my decision down to either the Raymond or the Yale, but I can't decide between the two. Raymond comes standard with many more features vs the Yale (many user programable features, numeric locking/unlock keypad, digital battery meter...) which makes me lean towards Raymond, but is simpler sometimes better in terms of electronic gadgets?
I'd like to know which of the two you guys would choose in terms of reliability and cost of maintainence. Please help me out as I have to make my purchase this week.

Thanks a million.

Posted 20 May 2008 09:29 AM Reply  Report this message
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justinm
New York, United States

 		raymond over the yale

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New York, New York its a heluva town ..you know that The Bronx is up ..and im Brooklyn down

Posted 27 May 2008 09:46 AM Reply  Report this message
E_lift
New York, United States 		definitly Raymond

your local dealer is GN Johnston

Posted 8 Jan 2009 04:03 AM Reply  Report this message
Solutions
California, United States

 		An extremely large Retailer in the US did a study and found that Raymond forklifts cost 1/6 the cost for on-going maintenance over less expensive brands.

Some of the reasons:

The undercarriage uses pull rods, not threaded rods (that can strip)
Password protection (people can't steal it)
Synthetic bushings (you don't have to grease the axles)
Shorter, top-mounted handle (more maneuverable in tight places)
Posted 17 Feb 2009 06:47 AM Reply  Report this message
johnr_j
Georgia, United States 		Did anybody ever hear what MFExpress ever bought on or about May 27, 2008?  Was it quality or price?

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Posted 17 Feb 2009 10:44 PM Reply  Report this message
zarci
ncr, Philippines

 		raymond...

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cesar

Posted 19 Feb 2009 05:23 PM Reply  Report this message
Raymond
Kentucky, United States 		Yale/Hyster is a very simple machine that have proven its self year after year. I have seen these unit in harsh environments such as pickle factory’s to  bouncing around in a delivery (Pepsi) truck in -30 degree conditions work flawlessly. Best advice is to ask your salesmen for a” Recommended Spare Parts List” these are known  wear parts to stock and are common wear items. Take look at the Yale/Hyster and then compare the Raymond. The Yale/Hyster is a buy far a much better unit then the Raymond on cost of ownership and durability.

Posted 19 Feb 2009 06:58 PM Reply  Report this message
zarci
ncr, Philippines

 		raymond technolgy and quality is better than the other truck.. the new design of bt raymond are base on TPS(toyota production system) it's improve the quality of this truck from safety,durability,productivity,and driveability

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cesar

Posted 21 Feb 2009 10:35 AM Reply  Report this message
edward_t
South Carolina, United States

 		I think MFExpress just wanted to advertise prices to see if any of the dealers in his area would give him a better deal based on price.
I also think most of these prices are close enough that a good salesman could "work with the customer" and the price not be as important as after-sales support.
MFExpress says "I've visited 4 of the main vendors in my area", but did any of their salespeople offer to visit your operation to see just which level of pallett jack you really need? I know for a fact Cat has about 3 to 5 different pallet jack designs based on how the machine is going to be used, with different batteries and controllers and price points.
Differences in battery packages are enough to make the differences in the posted [here] prices.
I also think in Pallet jacks, you very often "get what you pay for", as most dealers can sell you the top of the line tough truck, or a few models that may lift the same weight and drive as fast, but are 'less expensive to purchase' (upfront) units.
I am of the opinion a good eye can usually tell which is the better built unit.
Zarci's "opinions" seem to me to be right out of Toyota's sale literature, and not opinions developed over years of working with all different brands, but his English is excellent.
I am also still of the opinion that the relationship with the local dealer's staff is as important as the name or color of paint on the product, especially when speaking about something where the difference in price is less than the price differences of the optional battery packs, or a troubleshoot controller replacement service call.

Modified 22 Feb 2009 00:48 AM
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jamesr_w
New York, United States 		Raymond for sure.   Using AC motor and controllers is a good thing.  The Curtis controllers are extremely user friendly.   Toyota is a Raymond.  

Do also have a look at the Linde.

Posted 3 Dec 2010 01:46 AM Reply  Report this message
5030
Ontario, Canada 		Let's not assume that the Toyota/Raymond quality is going to be there just because they say it is.  They do a great job of marketing the Toyota quality based on what they have done in the automotive industry, but, you tell me!  Who has been in the headlines the most recently with recalls on their vehicles....?  Toyota!!  Do your research in terms of the overall cost.  Is the SAS system, for example, really going to help you operation (ie. safety) or hinder you (ie. cost to maintain/repair)?  Take a look at the service manual...you should be able to get your answer there.   They do not back it up.  Also, get a feel for which dealer/dealer rep is going to support you the best.  

Posted 28 Jan 2011 01:30 AM Reply  Report this message
cownd
Arizona, United States

 		We have been using the Crown SHR5500 which is a pallet type reach truck for over a year now in a heavy production setting, have had no problems to date.

Posted 28 Jan 2011 02:56 AM Reply  Report this message
jamesr_w
New York, United States 		I would recommend having a look at the dealer for both.  Their size and their support.  raymond parts depot is in Syracuse, if that helps.

If I had to choose, I have to go with Raymond.

Jim

Posted 29 Jan 2011 03:32 AM Reply  Report this message
johnr_j
Georgia, United States 		I would speculate that the person who started this thread in May 2008 has already made his decision by now or had his budget cut and can't spend a dime.  What say you?

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Posted 30 Jan 2011 02:00 AM Reply  Report this message
chublil
California, United States

 		RAYMOND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 9 Feb 2011 11:15 PM Reply  Report this message


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