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Forum: Safety, training & legislation
Discussion:  Trainees and testing
Number of messages: 10

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ZZJASEZZ
BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, United Kingdom

If a trainee has given a very poor performance over the week do`s he still have the right to go on a test on the last day of training.Even though you know he will fail but what if by luck he passes the test...

Posted 16 Mar 2008 07:11 PM Reply  Report this message
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dan_m
Ontario, Canada
Poor performance on the written or practical test over the week?

Posted 20 Mar 2008 12:59 AM Reply  Report this message
gerry_e
norfolk, United Kingdom
as an instructor you have the right to decide if the operator is "suitable"ie fit for the job. if not you can halt the training. i know from personel experience that this can sometimes be awkward, say if the job the op is doing has changed and now  means they have to use a truck. But your primary concern must be the well being of the person you are training and the people who they will be working with.

Posted 21 Mar 2008 02:31 AM Reply  Report this message
dan_m
Ontario, Canada
If you read my article in the Safety 1st column last week, you would have noted that in situations as noted above may require a different system of competency.  If he did 'okay' at the end, maybe he is a low level competent person meaning he should only be dealt menial tasks, and more difficult tasks handed out to the experienced, or better operators.  With time, hiopefully, his skills will improve and then his supervisor can dole out more difficult tasks.  That is what I do.

Posted 21 Mar 2008 03:33 AM Reply  Report this message
ZZJASEZZ
BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, United Kingdom

gerry thanks for reasuring me on that one that is what i do im affraid that some people are not cut out to be flt drivers and i have stopped their training half way through the course as their responce to instruction has been very poor.

Posted 21 Mar 2008 04:37 AM Reply  Report this message
gerry_e
norfolk, United Kingdom
you are right do stop the training,dans point about a low level of competence is true if they are not unsafe. in the uk if they make three unsafe moves on the test, you are obliged to fail them.

Posted 24 Mar 2008 11:55 PM Reply  Report this message
dan_m
Ontario, Canada
My minimum driving score is 85.  Low level in all liklihood means that they are somewhat new, lack confidence, or show promise but have not eaned the experience to allow them to become fully competent.  Anyone who is unsafe, knows not what they are doing, are not destined to become a forklift operator, or if they are wild and foolish, then no certification.

And sometimes the line between low level and fully competent is very narrow.  If they are low level but show great promise, the record of training is glowing for them.  If they fall on the competent side of the line yet I have some reservations, then the record of training does not paint a pretty picture.

Remember, low level means that they can only perform simple tasks.  Undertaking anything that may pose a risk to injury, or worse, should not be undertaken.

I have been using this system for the past 10 years and I have yet to have someone involved in an incident...knock on wood!

Modified 25 Mar 2008 01:33 PM
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ZZJASEZZ
BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, United Kingdom

Think you get some idea from day one dan who is going to make it and who isnt. Most of it is down to how they respond to instructions. If your forever explaining what you want them to do and have shown them many times this is normally a bad sign.

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ITSSAR F.L.T INSTRUCTOR

Posted 26 Mar 2008 04:55 AM Reply  Report this message
dan_m
Ontario, Canada
Like anything else ZZJASEZZ, either you got it, or you don't.  Lol.

Posted 26 Mar 2008 09:22 AM Reply  Report this message
ZZJASEZZ
BUCKINGHAMSHIRE, United Kingdom

definitely agree with you there lol......

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ITSSAR F.L.T INSTRUCTOR

Posted 27 Mar 2008 03:59 AM Reply  Report this message


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